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# Jeff Tang
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- Q: What do you need?
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- Q: What do you need?
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- Let's talk more!
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- Q: would publishing Athens to web be useful? Agora
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- wikilinks with brackets, broadcast to all digital gardens participating
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- Q: How does [[Athens]] fit in the wider ecosystem?
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- A: unfortunately not lots of collaboration.
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- A: some chats with [[Foam]] and [[logseq]]. logseq have the most in common; they use clojurescript/datascript.
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- A: it's probably too hard to merge projects or come up with a shared vision.
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- A: coordination cost is high. Expected value is not very high in the immediate. We are all trying to be successful, then
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- Q: would publishing Athens to web be useful? Agora
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- wikilinks with brackets, broadcast to all digital gardens participating
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- Q: How does [[Athens]] fit in the wider ecosystem?
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- A: unfortunately not lots of collaboration.
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- A: some chats with [[Foam]] and [[logseq]]. logseq have the most in common; they use clojurescript/datascript.
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- A: it's probably too hard to merge projects or come up with a shared vision.
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- A: coordination cost is high. Expected value is not very high in the immediate. We are all trying to be successful, then
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- A coordination problem
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- Civilization suffers from it. We need to believe that it can be solved, but it's unclear how to go about it.
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- Most recent examples of successful standards come from crypto. In the crypto space you have open protocols, a few companies work exclusively on exchanges and interop.
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- Civilization suffers from it. We need to believe that it can be solved, but it's unclear how to go about it.
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- Most recent examples of successful standards come from crypto. In the crypto space you have open protocols, a few companies work exclusively on exchanges and interop.
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- W3C standard: would you be happy if that happened?
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- Jeff: Yes! But does everyone want that? Coordination again.
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- [[logseq]] started one month before [[Athens]]; similar number of contributors. Wanted to partner with them, we had an agreement. First a standard, then perhaps even merging; we had similar visions, were using similar technologies.
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- Coordinating was considered too difficult in the end at this stage.
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- Jeff: Yes! But does everyone want that? Coordination again.
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- [[logseq]] started one month before [[Athens]]; similar number of contributors. Wanted to partner with them, we had an agreement. First a standard, then perhaps even merging; we had similar visions, were using similar technologies.
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- Coordinating was considered too difficult in the end at this stage.
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- Hub-like standard? Periphery. Hypothesis: multiplayer is key. Hub provides multiplayer, a social graph.
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- Beautiful but very idealistic.
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- A: I'm also very pragmatic though.
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- Beautiful but very idealistic.
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- A: I'm also very pragmatic though.
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- Social knowledge graphs
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- Look up: [[Nate Liason]] -- "effortless output in Roam". More for beginners.
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- He has published his brain: https://www.nateliason.com/brain
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- He has published his brain: https://www.nateliason.com/brain
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## TODO
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- Read about [[Nate Liason]]
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- Work on [[agora-protocol]]
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[//begin]: # "Autogenerated link references for markdown compatibility"
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[Athens]: athens "Athens"
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[Foam]: foam "Foam"
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[athens]: athens "Athens"
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[foam]: foam "Foam"
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[logseq]: logseq "Logseq"
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[agora-protocol]: agora-protocol "Agora Protocol"
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[//end]: # "Autogenerated link references"
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- Fill in [[social knowledge graphs]] discussion doc. skgdoc.
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- The [[stoa]] is feeling more and more like a [[wiki]] all the time.
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- TIL that [[Neil Harbisson]] and [[Moon Ribas]] communicate via bluetooth-enabled vibrators in their teeth.
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- Should work on [[roam likes]]
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- Add [[logseq]], [[vimwiki]], [[org roam]].
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- Ran into a [[digital garden]]: https://braindump.jethro.dev/
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[//begin]: # "Autogenerated link references for markdown compatibility"
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[eionrobb]: ../eionrobb "Eionrobb"
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[pidgin]: ../pidgin "Pidgin"
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[covid-19]: ../covid-19 "Covid 19"
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[stoa]: ../stoa "Stoa"
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[logseq]: ../logseq "Logseq"
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[//end]: # "Autogenerated link references"
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# 2020-11-19
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# 2020-11-20
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- It's Friday! Feeling good about this.
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- I have plenty of plans for the weekend, but I also want to take it easy.
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# Roam Likes
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- A blog post on flancia.org.
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- [[go]] flancia.org/mine/roam-likes
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- [ ] Should add: [[remnote]], [[logseq]], [[vimwiki]], [[org roam]].
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[//begin]: # "Autogenerated link references for markdown compatibility"
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[go]: go "Go"
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[logseq]: logseq "Logseq"
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[//end]: # "Autogenerated link references"
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