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- [[person]]
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- [[twitter]] andreiciortea
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- In St Gallen.
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- Interested in [[distributed knowledge graph]]s and [[governance]].
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[//begin]: # "Autogenerated link references for markdown compatibility"
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[person]: person "Person"
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[twitter]: twitter "Twitter"
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[distributed-knowledge-graph]: distributed-knowledge-graph "Distributed Knowledge Graph"
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[governance]: governance "Governance"
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[//end]: # "Autogenerated link references"
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# Ivan Herman
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- When [[semantic web]] was designed, [[privacy]] and [[security]] were not considered.
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- [[rob-sanderson]] Social could help here.
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- Ivan: it needs to be proved.
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[//begin]: # "Autogenerated link references for markdown compatibility"
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[rob-sanderson]: rob-sanderson "Rob Sanderson"
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[//end]: # "Autogenerated link references"
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- A [[person]].
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- [[twitter]] twitter.com/gustafjt.
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- Had an idea that was essentially very compatible to [[agora protocol]].
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[//begin]: # "Autogenerated link references for markdown compatibility"
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[person]: person "Person"
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[twitter]: twitter "Twitter"
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[agora-protocol]: agora-protocol "Agora Protocol"
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[//end]: # "Autogenerated link references"
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# 2020-12-01
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- [[samuel klein]] pointed out [[instant commons]] by [[wikimedia]].
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- [[social-knowledge-graphs-discussion]]
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[//begin]: # "Autogenerated link references for markdown compatibility"
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[samuel-klein]: ../samuel-klein "Samuel Klein"
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[instant-commons]: ../instant-commons "Instant Commons"
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[wikimedia]: ../wikimedia "Wikimedia"
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[//end]: # "Autogenerated link references"
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- Perhaps my answer is that we should favour simplicity in the data structure/interface and try to solve it using the social aspect of distributed knowledge graphs; ranking/disambiguation information volunteered by users post facto.
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- Perhaps many lightweight "see also" pointers could mean "same as"?
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- [[link rot]]
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- Perhaps not as bad in the [[agora]] due to the fact that most links will be to nodes and not to subnodes?
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- Perhaps not as bad in an [[agora]] due to the fact that most links will be to nodes and not to subnodes?
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- [[andrei-ciortea]]
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- [[ward-cunningham]]
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- [[ivan herman]]
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- [[joel-gustafson]]
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[jennifer-rygh]: jennifer-rygh "Jennifer Rygh"
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[link-rot]: link-rot "Link Rot"
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[agora]: agora "Agora"
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[andrei-ciortea]: andrei-ciortea "Andrei Ciortea"
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[ward-cunningham]: ward-cunningham "Ward Cunningham"
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[ivan-herman]: ivan-herman "Ivan Herman"
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[joel-gustafson]: joel-gustafson "Joel Gustafson"
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[//end]: # "Autogenerated link references"
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- The [[OG]].
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- Founder of [[c2]].
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## About creating wiki
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- Wiki
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- Had experience with Smalltalk, amassed over several months of undirected exploration
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- People asked for the gist of Smalltalk to learn it over two days. How to condense months of learning in a format that makes that possible?
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- The text in the wiki came from that.
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- "Made this thing over a weekend because nobody was sending me tihng" -- I called it wiki because it meant "fast".
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- "If I make this stupid simple" -- people won't think I tried hard, but they will have the tools to "make it work".
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- Tended to the wiki a few hours a day -- in the time between "proper work". But that tending paid off.
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- For long, people could have thrashed but didn't. Then someone did, and people just tended to it.
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- The environment that resulted was very *creative*. Lots of vocabulary was coined right there.
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- When Wikipedia came along, it did the right things:
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- They made it in every language
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- Spinning off wikis out of wikis
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- Wiki on wiki (meta)
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- Religion wiki
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- Taking pages and refactoring, cross-linking -- that's the core of federated wiki.
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- In a federated wiki, queries propagate -- pages include a history on which wikis have hosted the wiki previously. If a page vanishes, it can be found in a previous version.
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- "When you're talking about yourself, talk of yourself as we"
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- Google-like analytics were interesting
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- Tried not to pay attention.
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- Bone (sp?) dialog: you talk to the center of the room, not to any particular person. It's good for sharing, giving.
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- Some people wanted to put graphs in wiki
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- Federated wiki has a few thousand sites on it, 25-30 get daily updates and host vibrant communities and might be interested in your project.
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- Links are the title of the page
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- But if you retrieve a page from some other wiki, it fans out/ripples
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- The sites you pull from become part of your neighborhood
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- When you search, you can choose to "pull" pages into your sites
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- [[curational event]]
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- People might turn out to maintain several sites, specialized on topics
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- If you go to your unicycle page, it will mention there are N pages about unicycle in your neighborhood
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- http://found.ward.bay.wiki.org/wiki-as-knowledge-graph.html
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[//begin]: # "Autogenerated link references for markdown compatibility"
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[person]: person "Person"
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[twitter]: twitter "Twitter"
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[c2]: c2 "C2"
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[wikipedia]: wikipedia "Wikipedia"
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[//end]: # "Autogenerated link references"
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