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Jerry Michalski says:Dan, here's the event:
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https://www.betaworks.com/event/render-tools-for-thinking
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mathew
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mathew says:my scrib(bl)e on Gordon's "demo" are on your agora's hedgedoc, @Flancian:
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https://doc.anagora.org/s/tools-for-thinking
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https://anagora.org/tools-for-thinking
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Chris Aldrich
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Chris Aldrich says:Todays's shared notes:
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Chris Aldrich says:
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https://doc.anagora.org/fellowship-of-the-link?edit
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me says:thank you so much mathew!
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mathew
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mathew says:😉
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Jerry Michalski
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Jerry Michalski says:the FoTL Mattermost channel is
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https://chat.collectivesensecommons.org/agora/channels/ogm-fellowship-of-the-link
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Jerry Michalski says:
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https://web.hypothes.is/blog/say-hello-to-anno/
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Jerry Michalski says:ah, paywalls
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Jerry Michalski says:multiple people "scribed" the Render event. find them all here:
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https://wiki.rel8.dev/scribing_tools_for_thinking
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Jerry Michalski says:(including some nice folks here)
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Jerry Michalski says:Chris your notetaking is awesome
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Jerry Michalski says:does that HedgeDoc page automagically become part of An Agora?
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me says:Jerry: which hedgedoc?
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me says:this?
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https://doc.anagora.org/fellowship-of-the-link?edit#
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Jerry Michalski
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Jerry Michalski says:yes
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Jerry Michalski says:sometimes the comments are better than the content
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me says:I think that's me writing 😃
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Jerry Michalski says:oh! Flancian, you're an amazing notetaker! (sorry!)
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me says:(haha not at all, I just wanted to know if I was missing notes elsewhere!)
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Jerry Michalski says:nope
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Jerry Michalski says:Chris took notes on a prior call you missed, so I made faulty assumptions...
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me says:those notes were truly great 😃
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Jerry Michalski says:land trusts, other Commons model
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mathew
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mathew says:data unions: users share their data to train the AI; then benefit from the revenue from the AI.
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Jerry Michalski says:yes!
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mathew
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mathew says:all run via a DisCO, of course! 😉
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Jerry Michalski says:Commons that regulate markets
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Jerry Michalski says:and build larger markets
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Jerry Michalski says:adversarial interoperability
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Jerry Michalski says:how to "incentivise" high-quality creators to add to the Commons?
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Jerry Michalski says:and how do you create this economy in a way that's hard to disrupt?
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Jerry Michalski says:Reddit Gold
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mathew
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mathew says:is Blendle still going?
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Jerry Michalski says:redwoods that grow close intertwine their roots to create stability and grow taller
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me says:ranking, filtering
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me says:FoAF
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me says:(maybe)
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me says:open algorithms -> open AIs
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Jerry Michalski says:IndieWeb important here
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Jerry Michalski says:that, and I would love to be rewarded for curating my Brain... sigh
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Jerry Michalski says:static content vs feeds
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Jerry Michalski says:how to feed the garden(s)
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http://snarkmarket.com/2010/4890
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mathew says:my notes on technopastoral:
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https://myhub.ai/items/the-garden-and-the-stream-a-technopastoral-hapgood
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https://hapgood.us/2015/10/17/the-garden-and-the-stream-a-technopastoral/
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mathew says:The Future of the Internet Is Flow:
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http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-future-of-the-internet-is-flow-1443796858
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mathew says:both here, with a couple more:
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https://myhub.ai/@mathewlowry/?tags=stream
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mathew says:one more: Gardens, Not Graves :
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http://alistapart.com/article/gardens-not-graves
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Jerry Michalski says:Mathew, never heard of that article. cool!
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mathew
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mathew says:You need a pipeline. From a few yrs back:
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https://medium.com/the-mission/why-you-need-a-personal-content-strategy-ff05c84fccfd
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mathew says:What I think tagged #content_strategy and #productivity:
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Jerry Michalski says:Dan, we usually run well over an hour. Do you have to leave at the hour, and if so, anything you want to add or ask?
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Dan says:I do have to leave yes
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mathew says:a hub is a library
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mathew says:nice2meet u2
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me says:thank you Dan!!!
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mathew says:"Readwise looked at turning everything into blocks and do a block-based architecture ... developed a phase change metaphor ... to turn knowledge blobs into coherent texts for sharing... solids (documents) and ... fluid blocks (blobs of knowledge)."
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Chris Aldrich says:Something there reminded me of Jerry's question of zooming in and out and a UI experiment I saw yesterday:
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mathew says:👍
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mathew says:... and governments... (press releases)
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Jerry Michalski says:Nicky Case is cool!
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Jerry Michalski says:let's dig deeper into orality!
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mathew says:Btw, weren't we going to discuss creating a landscape of starting points for people interested in thinking tools?
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Jerry Michalski says:have link to the talk?
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Jerry Michalski says:+1 Mathew
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Jerry Michalski says:someone used docdrop to annotate a video podcast I did recently. very cool.
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mathew says:reminds me of Twitter missing this ~10 yrs ago
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Jerry Michalski says:love this!
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mathew says:What do you think of Noosphere, btw?
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Chris Aldrich says:Q: What did the big toe say to the little toe?
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Chris Aldrich says:A: There's a fungus among us
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Jerry Michalski says:Mapping Tools for Thinking
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Jerry Michalski says:bring in Ward Cunningham?
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Chris Aldrich says:Let's start a politbureau! 🤣
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