From 20993289f3fd7ba28ede4fd784a9fc5af9620997 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Flancian <0@flancia.org> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2022 21:30:01 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] autopushed --- fotl chat.md | 237 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 237 insertions(+) create mode 100644 fotl chat.md diff --git a/fotl chat.md b/fotl chat.md new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0f33cc26b --- /dev/null +++ b/fotl chat.md @@ -0,0 +1,237 @@ +- [[2022-08-19]] +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:Dan, here's the event: +https://www.betaworks.com/event/render-tools-for-thinking + +20:04 +mathew +mathew says:my scrib(bl)e on Gordon's "demo" are on your agora's hedgedoc, @Flancian: +https://doc.anagora.org/s/tools-for-thinking + +20:07 +me says: +https://anagora.org/tools-for-thinking + +20:07 +Chris Aldrich +Chris Aldrich says:Todays's shared notes: +Chris Aldrich says: +https://doc.anagora.org/fellowship-of-the-link?edit + +20:07 +me says:thank you so much mathew! +20:07 +mathew +mathew says:😉 +20:08 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:the FoTL Mattermost channel is +https://chat.collectivesensecommons.org/agora/channels/ogm-fellowship-of-the-link + +Jerry Michalski says: +https://web.hypothes.is/blog/say-hello-to-anno/ + +Jerry Michalski says:ah, paywalls +Jerry Michalski says:multiple people "scribed" the Render event. find them all here: +https://wiki.rel8.dev/scribing_tools_for_thinking + +Jerry Michalski says:(including some nice folks here) +Jerry Michalski says:Chris your notetaking is awesome +Jerry Michalski says:does that HedgeDoc page automagically become part of An Agora? +20:21 +me says:Jerry: which hedgedoc? +me says:this? +https://doc.anagora.org/fellowship-of-the-link?edit# + +20:22 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:yes +Jerry Michalski says:sometimes the comments are better than the content +20:23 +me says:I think that's me writing 😃 +20:23 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:oh! Flancian, you're an amazing notetaker! (sorry!) +20:23 +me says:(haha not at all, I just wanted to know if I was missing notes elsewhere!) +20:23 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:nope +Jerry Michalski says:Chris took notes on a prior call you missed, so I made faulty assumptions... +20:24 +me says:those notes were truly great 😃 +20:24 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:land trusts, other Commons model +20:25 +mathew +mathew says:data unions: users share their data to train the AI; then benefit from the revenue from the AI. +20:26 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:yes! +20:26 +mathew +mathew says:all run via a DisCO, of course! 😉 +20:27 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:Commons that regulate markets +Jerry Michalski says:and build larger markets +Jerry Michalski says:adversarial interoperability +Jerry Michalski says:how to "incentivise" high-quality creators to add to the Commons? +Jerry Michalski says:and how do you create this economy in a way that's hard to disrupt? +Jerry Michalski says:Reddit Gold +20:30 +mathew +mathew says:is Blendle still going? +20:34 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:redwoods that grow close intertwine their roots to create stability and grow taller +20:34 +me says:ranking, filtering +me says:FoAF +me says:(maybe) +me says:open algorithms -> open AIs +20:35 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:IndieWeb important here +Jerry Michalski says:that, and I would love to be rewarded for curating my Brain... sigh +Jerry Michalski says:static content vs feeds +Jerry Michalski says:how to feed the garden(s) +Jerry Michalski says: +http://snarkmarket.com/2010/4890 + +20:43 +mathew +mathew says:my notes on technopastoral: +https://myhub.ai/items/the-garden-and-the-stream-a-technopastoral-hapgood + +20:44 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says: +https://hapgood.us/2015/10/17/the-garden-and-the-stream-a-technopastoral/ + +20:44 +mathew +mathew says:The Future of the Internet Is Flow: +http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-future-of-the-internet-is-flow-1443796858 + +mathew says:both here, with a couple more: +https://myhub.ai/@mathewlowry/?tags=stream + +mathew says:one more: Gardens, Not Graves : +http://alistapart.com/article/gardens-not-graves + +20:46 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:Mathew, never heard of that article. cool! +20:46 +mathew +mathew says:You need a pipeline. From a few yrs back: +https://medium.com/the-mission/why-you-need-a-personal-content-strategy-ff05c84fccfd + +mathew says:What I think tagged #content_strategy and #productivity: +https://myhub.ai/@mathewlowry/?quality=all&tags=productivity&tags=content+strategy&timeframe=anytime&types=think + +20:49 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:Dan, we usually run well over an hour. Do you have to leave at the hour, and if so, anything you want to add or ask? +20:51 +Dan +Dan says:I do have to leave yes +20:52 +mathew +mathew says:a hub is a library +mathew says:nice2meet u2 +20:53 +me says:thank you Dan!!! +20:54 +mathew +mathew says:"Readwise looked at turning everything into blocks and do a block-based architecture ... developed a phase change metaphor ... to turn knowledge blobs into coherent texts for sharing... solids (documents) and ... fluid blocks (blobs of knowledge)." +20:55 +Chris Aldrich +Chris Aldrich says:Something there reminded me of Jerry's question of zooming in and out and a UI experiment I saw yesterday: +https://ncase.me/nutshell/ + +20:55 +mathew +mathew says:👍 +mathew says:... and governments... (press releases) +20:57 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:Nicky Case is cool! +Jerry Michalski says:let's dig deeper into orality! +20:58 +mathew +mathew says:Btw, weren't we going to discuss creating a landscape of starting points for people interested in thinking tools? +20:58 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:have link to the talk? +Jerry Michalski says:+1 Mathew +20:59 +Dan +Dan says: +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThr77PbJ4w + +Dan says: +https://docdrop.org/video/GThr77PbJ4w/ + +20:59 +Chris Aldrich +Chris Aldrich says: +https://docdrop.org/ + as a tool for annotating video +21:00 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:someone used docdrop to annotate a video podcast I did recently. very cool. +21:00 +mathew +mathew says:reminds me of Twitter missing this ~10 yrs ago +21:01 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:love this! +21:01 +mathew +mathew says:What do you think of Noosphere, btw? +21:02 +Chris Aldrich +Chris Aldrich says:Q: What did the big toe say to the little toe? +Chris Aldrich says:A: There's a fungus among us +21:05 +mathew +mathew says:😄 +mathew says:When I shared an appartment in Sydney with a few others, we had a commonbook in the lounge for messaging each other. Hilarious reading +21:07 +me says:marginalia +21:08 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:Mapping Tools for Thinking +https://bra.in/5qeDMg + +21:13 +mathew +mathew says:my first idea: +https://chat.collectivesensecommons.org/agora/pl/78gprua18frkpc6shrxabricqo + +21:15 +Chris Aldrich +Chris Aldrich says:how to ease the idea of satisficing the fediverse +21:15 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:spider charts +21:16 +mathew +mathew says:+1 +mathew says:Back to the data union DisCO... +21:22 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:bring in Ward Cunningham? +21:26 +Chris Aldrich +Chris Aldrich says:Let's start a politbureau! 🤣 +21:27 +Jerry Michalski +Jerry Michalski says:perfect! +Jerry Michalski says:a Mandarin class! +Jerry Michalski says:can u repost the diagram link here? +21:28 +me says:a distributed map of distributed thought