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Reading Alexander
2021-05-26
- I read what we agreed to read :)
- proposal: design a space following the example in the introductory material? 10-20 patterns combined.
- andreas
- would probably recommend people just go to a pattern language directly, it seems to be self-contained
- did something with a pattern language ~1y ago
- it just seems like previous reading wouldn't help learning how to write your own patterns?
- jonathan what would you recommend?
- the ideological component sometimes doesn't resonate; the patterns themselves, which can be used and changed regardless of ideology, seem more generally useful.
- simon this is framed as one big project (the three books). what's interesting: there is some goal of trying to provide a set of tools to shape one's environment.
- notsof could almost be computed by a machine
- whereas apl is very much grounded
- topic: what is timeless and beautiful. how the environment shapes us as much as we shape the environment.
- the weakest patterns are the strongly utilitarian. the stronger ones are "spiritual"
- some contradictions between patterns
- he loves dense cities and lively areas
- but he wants height limits and only building on 50% of the area
- units per building
- in a contemporary context a lot of the patterns are very difficult to achieve
- aside: would be interesting to model fit/misfit between patterns even as we swap in/out some of them
- pattern: filtered light
- mentions how the perception of light gets softened if it's filtered; less high contrast, which is a nice quality. for living spaces softness is nice.
- film makers think it makes objects more lively: e.g. leaves casting moving shadows.
- third reason: speculative. stimulates us biologically (?)
- could be socialized aesthetics instead.
- when planning windows, this pattern is recommended.
- armengol
- pattern: window place
- q when trying to differentiate between the list of patterns
- jonathan
- four stories limit
- ideology aside: main thing that bothered me in general. trying to justify things as natural.
- "want to find a pattern that looks ridiculous"
- in zurich: like hardau towers
- some justification for this pattern has to do with mental health issues
- people who live in high rises are less likely to go out into the world
- feeling connected to the city life
- andreas it seems very opinionated, it depends on one's preferences. you might not care about the misfits and have fits with your lifestyle.
- simon four floors doesn't seem high density enough for city life. attitude towards skyrises changes a lot across cultures. singapore for example has a very different disposition towards them.
- most sustainable density is about six floors.
- the most antisocial aspect of high rises is to have parking-lot-to-living-floor.
- isolation in high rises is a big problem though.
- andreas there is a huge grey area between four floors and high rises
- zurich proposed having public rooftops and bike lanes between them
- four stories limit
- simon
- bus stop
- liked: both describing a set of objects and activity/life that emerges around those objects
- bus stop
- alice
- interior windows
- pedestrian street
- social glue in society
- streets that are "too wide" are antisocial -- but of course nowadays with covid-19 that might be outdated
- eduardo
2021-05-12
- ttwob
- lorand
- found himself reading in a less analytical way
- armengol
- the structure itself seems to encourage this
- "I need to read it fast" yields a different kind of reading too, perhaps
- lorand some pieces seem to be a bit rough. but interesting questions
- the observation that people feel calm in nature -> homogeneity in aesthetics
- ad hoc/rushed at the end: processes for using patterns for differentiation of space. differentiation vs accumulation
- some vagueness
- a bit tragic perhaps: towards the end, neighbors working together to make their houses beautiful. seemed a bit utopian in a modernist sense.
- a pattern has a context, a problem and a solution that resolves the set of conflicting forces.
- embodiment as crucial vs the software patterns
- kowloon walled city
- tokyo 1960
- wabi sabi
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lorand
april
2021-03-17
2021-02-28
- participants
- jonathan
- alice
- andreas
- simon
- ekin
- mtr design visual arts
- interested in mapping!
- daniel
- graphic design, artistic practice
- designed physical spaces
- interested in translation between disciplines
- eduardo
- note taking ok?
- yes for now :)
- background: comp sci + linguistics
- cooperative/group projects, mapping, modelling and abstraction, translation
- note taking ok?
- katherine