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patterning

2021-08-01

  • lorand
    • tension between writing something understandable for everyone and going deep
    • thing with the lightbulbs ended up attracting a lot of attention
      • aside
        • flancian it feels like a high dimensional celullar automata
      • systems theory, kept wondering about whether people knew about it
    • the other "leg" is chapter 15, using feelings.
    • ultimately would love to have some text that has a couple of the ideas that were interesting, drilling down on those.
  • simon
    • interaction between the environment and people
    • there is something in the environment, in the object themselves, which encodes ways of behaviour
    • ezra klein podcast and the extended mind
    • you can divorce the form/pattern, reuse it in different ways
    • a pattern language is a collection of forms
    • extended mind -> a way of getting around the 'problem' of feeling
    • in architecture we're always looking at plans
      • you can take the form of a plan, take it into a different context and use it in a different way
    • lorand love the list of paradoxes
      • +1
  • when you went back to the toy model, did you understand it better?
    • got incremental understanding
    • didn't go all the way into convincing myself with the actual mathematical proof
  • flancian celullar automata, game of life
  • lorand entropy and diversity
  • homeostasis
    • flancian key word
      • a failing proposition :)
    • aided by modular approach
    • simon top down and bottom up approaches, which seem to map to selfconscious and unselfconscious in notsof
  • simon often work with planning laws, which interact with data variables (traffic, rate of light, etc.).
    • there is also a decisive factor: the qualities you want in the building you are trying to build.
    • flancian how do you think about the time variable in architecture? aging in buildings, entropy :)
    • you begin a project with a long list of requirements that you have to meet -- but those are day one. unclear how they will evolve over the years.
  • modularity aids upgradability in information theory
    • are building upgrades modular?
    • simon 60s-70s: yes. but that failed :) see capsule hotel, which remained unchanged because people liked it how it was.
    • but often it's the older building stock that is easiest to upgrade -- you can tear down walls and build new walls easily.
    • are there typical reasons that projects fail?
      • bad context: buildings placed in the wrong place/without the right support
      • buildings that are built with a very specific use, e.g. a fashion center when the fashion industry is moving away
      • hard to adapt office to residential and residential to office
    • are there any projects that are designed to have a short timespan, or need continuous updating?
  • requirements elicitation
  • Q: would patterns of pattern connectivity be interesting?
    • seems like something to keep in mind but it would quickly get too abstract?
    • simon reminds me of the diagrams at the end of notsof

2021-07-11

  • armengol lorand simon flancian
    • flancian proposal: meet a few more times but perhaps more spaced out?
    • simon sounds good. july works for me.
    • lorand summer sounds more certain than fall; unclear what commitments will be like in fall.
    • armengol uncertainty about august.
      • interested in summarizing the experience, some meta.
    • could explore:
      • writing something together/individually