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 - I just thought of [[suffering]] and what would amount to [[rational suffering]].
-  - Think of the suffering of the beings that die to feed others: some of that suffering is justified inasmuch it enables other conscious beings to subsist.
-  - When it is kept to a minimum, of course, we seem to arrive at the ethical optimum. But there are plenty of tradeoffs potentially worth taking.
+  - Think of the suffering of the beings that die to feed others: some of that suffering is justified inasmuch it enables other conscious beings to subsist and negotiate ethical [[tradeoffs]] of their own.
+  - When it is kept to a minimum, of course, we seem to arrive at the ethical optimum.
   - Think of worms getting grown and harvested for feed, but also of the beautiful bird hunted by the cat and the fish who die in the nets of [[fisherpeople]].
+  - See also: [[trolley science]].