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+# Dan Whaley
+- A [[person]].
+- [[twitter]] twitter.com/dwhley
+-  Drove from California to Argentina. 2003.
+-  canaryinacoalmine.org. One year!
+
+## [[2021-02-22]]
+- Greetings!
+- [[fedstoa]]
+  - [[moa]]
+    - [[bmann]], [[vera]]
+    - down with walled gardens :)
+    - [[dan]] [[readwise]] is very interesting, talk to them. they are a small shop.
+    - [[siphons]]
+- [[agora]]
+  - [[wikilinks everywhere]]
+    - library approach
+    - opportunity for [[hypothes.is]], [[memex]], [[promnesia]], [[agora]] collaboration likely
+    - [[karlicoss]]
+- [[roaman agora]]
+## [[2020-12-23]]
+- [[readwise]] [[notion]] [[roam]] 
+  - There seem to be many pipelines involving these and [[hypothes.is]]
+- [[2021]] [[goals]]
+  - [[integration]] [[mvp]]
+    - Assemble a 'small team' of interested open source devs or keep it in a small group?
+    - Dan: probably use one of the following strategies
+      - [[bat signal]]
+      - known devs
+      - upwork
+  - See paper notebook. 
+
+## [[2020-12-11]]
+
+### Agenda
+- [[wikilinks everywhere]]
+  - Clients
+  - Use cases
+  - [[browser-extension]]
+- Next steps for interop/protocol -- different from the above? Convergent?
+- Out there question
+
+### Notes
+- 22 people now in the company!
+- Raising money
+- [[Skunk works]]
+- Youtube annotator
+  - [[docdrop]]
+  - What about integrating this into the [[agora]]?
+- [[athens]] story 
+  - joined the beta 
+  - great for single-user use cases
+  - but doesn't go after collaboration, publishing, web
+- [[fedwiki]] seems to be the closest thing to the agora
+  - check out the wednesday calls 
+- [[react]] (a module) could be another frontend to the agora
+  - [[review]] [[preact]] is the new kind
+- would love to experiment to [[hypothes.is]]
+  - [[hypagora]]: a fork/branch
+- [[underlay]]
+  - seemed like it was more about structured representation
+  - agora is more like [[folksonomy]]
+## [[2020-10-09]]
+### Questions
+- Journey to understand the broad frame.
+  - There is a movement in humanity towards networked thinking.
+  - The book -> the telephone -> the web.
+  - What's next? There's another step coming. The beginning of truly coordinated semantic thinking.
+  - Dan believes that the note taking paradigm with wiki links is a key part of this journey but it needs an ingredient.
+    - Standards.
+    - Open coordination.
+    - Federation.
+  - Annotation is the *edge*. An event horizon.
+    - The ability to coordinate between clients that live at the edge is key.
+    - Does not yet have the power of the wiki link.
+  - Notion/Roam are not yet unlocking the full human potential.
+    - Dan is on a journey to find what are the essential components.
+  - Open questions: groups, groups permissions.
+  - Hypothesis gets tweeted at by people who are using their tools in new ways.
+ - John Gilmore.
+   - Local cyberpunk guy, founder of Sun Microsystems.
+   - Lots of different annotation services; how do you know which annotation services have annotations with a page?
+   - Similar problem to go link authorities.
+   - DHT.
+ - Del.ic.ious. 
+
+### Backlinks
+ - Some people think that the fact that backlinks were absent in the original web was part of what let it grow.
+
+### Risks
+- What if in the future you can't just run a server in your closet?
+- W3C
+  - Hypothes.is is part of it
+  - [[Tim Berners Lee]] holds it together.
+  - Community group -> working group
+  - [[Ivan Herman]]
+    - Senior staff at W3C
+  - Community group is outside the W3C, but blessed. Build a community, clear plan. Then you're invited to a working group.
+- Browser vendors consortium (name?)
+  - Conveniently outside the W3C.
+
+### Todo
+- [[Annotation standard]]: read it
+  - Data model
+    - JSON/RDF: elements that needs to make up an annotation
+  - Protocol
+    - Rest
+  - Vocabulary
+    - What are the concepts in this space.
+
+### One idea
+- A discrete component.
+- Glorified markdown editors.
+- Hypothes.is -> readwise -> Roam
+  -  Hypothes.is as a SGK client
+  -  Standards compliant wiki service
+
+### Social Networks
+
+- Dan agrees that most of the activity is socially beneficial.
+- People still think of these networks as being apart from themselves. But the network is the organism.
+
+### Topics
+- Tagging.
+  - [[Everything2]].com.
+- Open source versions of projects.
+  - Athens.
+  - Truly networked paradigm?
+- Loose coupling / loose integration.
+- My view: personal gardens are what get a critical mass. It needs to be independent.
+
+[//begin]: # "Autogenerated link references for markdown compatibility"
+[person]: person "Person"
+[twitter]: twitter "Twitter"
+[2021-02-22]: journal/2021-02-22 "2021-02-22"
+[fedstoa]: fedstoa "Fedstoa"
+[moa]: moa "Moa"
+[bmann]: bmann "Bmann"
+[vera]: vera "Vera"
+[siphons]: siphons "Siphons"
+[agora]: agora "Agora"
+[wikilinks everywhere]: wikilinks-everywhere "Wikilinks Everywhere"
+[memex]: memex "Memex"
+[promnesia]: promnesia "Promnesia"
+[karlicoss]: karlicoss "Karlicoss"
+[2020-12-23]: journal/2020-12-23 "2020-12-23"
+[notion]: notion "Notion"
+[roam]: roam "Roam"
+[goals]: goals "Goals"
+[mvp]: mvp "MVP"
+[2020-12-11]: journal/2020-12-11 "2020-12-11"
+[browser-extension]: browser-extension "Browser Extension"
+[athens]: athens "Athens"
+[underlay]: underlay "Underlay"
+[2020-10-09]: journal/2020-10-09 "2020-10-09"
+[Ivan Herman]: ivan-herman "Ivan Herman"
+[Annotation standard]: annotation-standard "Annotation Standard"
+[Everything2]: everything2 "Everything2"
+[//end]: # "Autogenerated link references"