diff --git a/agora-feeds.md b/agora-feeds.md
index da996be41..67e42ef98 100644
--- a/agora-feeds.md
+++ b/agora-feeds.md
@@ -6,8 +6,8 @@
       - I see this as part of the [[agora bridge]] effort.
     - As a [[producer]], to easily allow users and other systems to consume [[agora]] updates.
 - [[push]] [[python]] libraries
-  - [[atoma]]
-  - [[feedparser]]
+  - most popular: [[feedparser]]
+  - new contender: [[atoma]]
 
 
 [//begin]: # "Autogenerated link references for markdown compatibility"
@@ -17,6 +17,6 @@
 [rss]: rss "Rss"
 [atom]: atom "Atom"
 [agora bridge]: agora-bridge "Agora Bridge"
-[atoma]: atoma "Atoma"
 [feedparser]: feedparser "Feedparser"
+[atoma]: atoma "Atoma"
 [//end]: # "Autogenerated link references"
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diff --git a/journal/2021-01-31.md b/journal/2021-01-31.md
index 5f187bc13..cee5812f6 100644
--- a/journal/2021-01-31.md
+++ b/journal/2021-01-31.md
@@ -18,6 +18,8 @@
 - [[critique of worker coops]]
 - [[lake atitlán]]
 - [[agora feeds]]
+- [[venv]]
+  - [[virtualenv]]
 
 
 [//begin]: # "Autogenerated link references for markdown compatibility"
diff --git a/venv.md b/venv.md
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..12ea0b438
--- /dev/null
+++ b/venv.md
@@ -0,0 +1,6 @@
+# Venv
+
+- ```python3 -m venv venv```
+- ```. venv/bin/activate```
+- Now you can run pip install, etc.
+
diff --git a/virtualenv.md b/virtualenv.md
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..e35643b61
--- /dev/null
+++ b/virtualenv.md
@@ -0,0 +1,4 @@
+# Virtualenv
+
+- [[pull]] You can use [[venv]] as a built in alternative in python3 nowadays.
+